Wednesday, October 8, 2008

Latin III Projects

The first submission this morning was from Dietrich on Dido and Aeneas. Please flip over to the website to download and look through his work, then come back here and comment. Remember that this is a process, and keep in mind what the stated objectives and evaluation standards are. There is lots of room for interpretation here. I propose to add something but not until after at least some of you have finished posting.
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10/15/08 - Can I just note one concern? Well, two actually. First a mention about timeliness and punctuality. While I am fully prepared to take deadlines cum grano salis, sometimes I think I am overly soft in this regard. This may be why we seem to be moving more slowly through the book etc. than we could be. Ideally, comments were to be flowing in beginning after all the submissions had been posted last Wednesday. Most of the drafts came in since then. A week has gone by and while most have arrived, it is only now that the comments are coming, and those not in a torrent but in a trickle [i.e., only from one student, thank you Maggie]. Can we do better than this? Second, a reminder about the underlying or overarching purposes behind this work. It may not have been put terribly well in my project description two weeks ago, but this is how I phrased the "learning objectives":
  • To learn as much as you reasonably can about the characters of your couple and the events in which they were involved. This is in the nature of a bunch of facts.
  • To begin to see, grasp and start playing with the ideas, concepts, perspectives behind the stories about these characters and their circumstances.
  • To start noting how these stories and legends have played a part in the development of Western Civilization.
  • To begin considering what can be learned from them about the human condition.
We seem to be stuck on the first point. Perhaps the medium is limiting as regards the other three, and maybe it is unclear what sorts of inquiries those other three point to. Think about the attitudes and beliefs of the culture in which these stories were told. Think about subsequent literature, art and music. Think about seeming constants in the lives of human beings: emotions, attitudes, behavior.

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10/23/08 - Okay, we've discussed some of the problems with this project, problems at least from my perspective. I've distributed copies of your slides with my notes, primarily on grammatical matters, with some accuracy issues indicated, as well as a few suggestions for pursuing aspects of the subjects in more depth. At this point, there's not much more I can reasonably expect than that you address at least the matters I've pointed out. We can consider together early during the second marking period how to improve the scholarship of these projects, both as to the nature and quality of the work you do on them and the utility and significance of the products resulting from your work. In light of the impending end of the marking period, consider third period Tuesday your deadline. Pax vobiscum sit.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi :)
I think you did a nice job on your powerpoint, although if it were my presentation, I probably would have added more images. The only constructive criticism I can offer you is to make sure your information is from an accurate source.
-Maggie

Anonymous said...

Well, the one I just posted was directed towards Dietrich, but apparently it didn't show that..

Sorry!

Anonymous said...

To Atykay:
Do not try to use Latin in anymore of your projects :D I thought your powerpoint was creative and the colors were just lovely. You provided a lot of information on Helen and Paris as well, which gave a clear understanding of the message we were trying to capture. Bene.

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Anonymous said...

Hi Snyder! I just now remembered to do this...

Paul: We all yelled at you for your poor choice in color scheme :P. Black and white was a bit boring, along with the lack of graphics. Overall, though, the information was good.

Dietrich: Your color scheme was better than Paul's, but I think it was still kind of boring. This is possibly due to the fact that you also had no pictures! I like the fact that your information was brief and in bullets. It was easier to understand because we didn't have to take in SO much information at once.

Anonymous said...

continued!

Maggie: Thank you! Your colors were also pretty :) and the addition of pictures made the presentation so much more interesting. Again, I liked the usage of bulletins rather than lengthy paragraphs like I used. Odysseus and Penelope have always been my favorite thanks to The Odyssey!

Kathleen: I would first like to say that your Latin usage worked out better than mine. :P. I liked your PowerPoint! I never knew Achilles had a wife! It was easy to read and understand, but there were a lot of slides. Good work.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to apologize for getting my PP in so late, Mr. Snyder! I know we make a million excuses everyday, but lately life outside of school has been so hectic.

Also, I never remembered to incorporate those other objectives into my presentation. While I'm thinking about it...one thing I noticed throughout most of the stories was how huge of an impact the Gods had. This is probably making no sense, but it just seems that everything was done one way to make things in the future happen another way. Sorry that is so confusing! I'm just babbling. Goodnight :)

Anonymous said...

I just sent my second powerpoint to your email. Even though it was our own idea, I don't think we should make powerpoints anymore. I'm perfectly fine with a paper or something else.

I just read your blog and your web site, and I feel bad. While it was a bit challenging to cover every objective using powerpoint, I think I can speak on behalf of everyone when I say we didn't really put all of our effort into doing these projects. Katie was right; things are hectic.

Everything will be better for the poets project though, and if it isn't, then you're allowed verberare nos aut me.